These are the words the Ecumenical Patriarch said to Metropolitan Epifaniy of the OCU after the Independence Day parade. At that time, it was the Ecumenical Patriarch who was in Ukraine on a pastoral and official visit.
Metropolitan Epifaniy shared with Saken Aimurzayev the information about Patriarch Bartholomew's impressions of what he saw in Ukraine during an interview for the DetectorUA YouTube channel.
The head of the OCU recalled how excited Patriarch Bartholomew was during the festive celebrations on the Maidan, during the parade.
“When Patriarch Bartholomew and I got into the car, the Patriarch said: "Ukraine is invincible. I've been told a lot, but you can hear it a hundred times and see it once.” And he saw it with his own eyes, was convinced, was inspired and said that there would really be a Ukrainian Church. It exists and will continue to be established, despite resistance from others,” the Metropolitan of the OCU said.